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Józef Skiba - Sieklówka
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My name is Skiba Józef, I live here in Sieklówka, number 167, I am 80. I would like to tell you about the deaths, the genocide; my family and neighbours were shot. Seven people were shot in all, it was the 30th August in ‘44.

The front got to us on the Assumption of Mary, the 15th August. It was then that they gave us orders to leave our houses until the 25th. Then everyone formed groups with who they could. It so happened, that my sister had just given birth, she had a baby girl, we managed to baptise her in the church here: she was born on the 19th August, and on the 22nd we were getting ready to leave. But my sister had just given birth and we prepared a cart pulled by a cow for her, we didn’t have a horse. Anyone who had any form of transport would use it to take some belongings with them.

We didn’t take much with us, we simply didn’t have room. When we were on our way we met a German who spoke Polish, he was an honest man and said: “don’t go too far, when you go down the hill to Bieździatka, in around 4 kilometres, take a left turn to Gośćce, we are going to be here for maybe a week and then we will move on, don’t go far”. And that’s what we did. We got to Bieździatka, and to the so-called Łazy, Kąciny, we lived there with people that took us in. But we didn’t take any food with us, there was also extreme poverty in Kąciny, and my mother said: the field here goes up to the forest, the wheat has been harvested so we’ll have something to prepare, some grub. Both of my brothers-in-law went, as well as my mother and brother, who determinedly said he would go too. He was 12 at the time. I took the cow to graze in the forest. So they went to collect the wheat and then came back and at Gąsior’s place here by the forest, next to the house whose owner, she was shot as well with her five-year-old daughter, they sat down, waited around, rested. It was there that the police attacked them, they were carrying some sort of metal sheet, they just dived in. They took them away to this place here, to this creek, and shot them all.

We returned from that displacement in January, on the 17th we were liberated. In the spring we went back and looked for them, because they didn’t come back and we knew that something must have happened to them. We looked in the fields where there were bunkers. We dug up various people, from Lubla even, there was another guy from Warzyce who was also shot here.

On the 10th or 9th June, there were ongoing religious celebrations, farmer Skórski was going along the road with his son. They got to this place and turned to go into the forest. His son got to the place of the murders and said: "Daddy there’s something here, the ground is soft in this place". They poked the ground with a stick, and it wouldn’t budge. It was five in the afternoon, they let me know, we immediately went there and started to dig up the area, and then after a moment I’m saying: "my brother-in-law Jasiek’s lying there, I recognise him by his shoes".

We dug out everyone, but it was night, we cut down some small trees and covered the bodies so the foxes wouldn’t get at them, and we went to the priest, and then we went to dig a grave at the cemetery and started to look for wooden boards to make some coffins. Some local carpenters made them. At five in the morning two carts came with the coffins, we put them inside, the bodies, and we buried them at the cemetery. Then we went back home.

The houses were deserted, windows and doors had been pulled out, we had to move on and find a place to save ourselves. There were two sisters with small children, I had got there earlier, because we were in Gamrata, I managed to secure a room for us and then they arrived. There was poverty from the outset.

Before it was different, the trees were much bigger. Today the whole forest has changed, the tall trees with large trunks have been cut down, everything here is just young trees which have grown, it looked totally different than it does today. It was here that we found them. She was murdered, my mother Józefa Skiba, my brother Jan Skiba, he was 12, my brother-in-law Jan Maziarz, 28, my other brother-in-law Skórski Mieczysław. The boys were in the army, one was in the cavalry, the other in the Highlander Brigade. My neighbour Stanisława Maziarz and Gąsior Anna, she was 45, as well as her daughter, aged 5. They were holding hands, they were all shot by a machine gun, because when we dug them out my brother-in-law Mietek, he was tall and was shot in the chest, and by brother Janek and other brother-in-law Jasiu were shorter and they head wounds on their heads. And that daughter still had a small basket of flowers which lay by her feet. That’s what it looked like.

And that’s all I have to say about that.

This is the first in a series of photographs and interviews by Andrzej Kramarz from his exhibition, "A Piece of Land", at Camelot Gallery in Krakow (Poland) from November 15th to December 28th, 2009. HI Art Magazine will be featuring more excerpts from this exhibition in future issues.


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