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Marszałek Krościenko

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It was 42. I remember well, it was May, it was a warm month, and there was a round up of Jews. The Gestapo came from Szczawnica; thats where they had their quarters. The SS were the worst of the worst. They came to Krościenko with their cars, like army Jeeps, there were always four of them in them. Raus we understand, get out… German was similar to the Jewish language they used. They knew perfectly well what was going on so they came out onto Jagiellońska street. Jagiellońska is the towns high street, it links Krościenko with Nowy Targ and Sącz, it was a main road. They all went out and had only a few minutes to grab anything they could and thats it. The old grand-dads that couldnt go on their own were taken out on wheelchairs, and those who couldnt even get out of bed got a bullet and end of story. It lasted for a whole day. It was terrible. No-one could help them; they would pay with their lives.

It was all moving in the direction of Nowy Targ, where there was a separation point, where they would take the children away from their parents. Babies would be killed on the spot and kids who could already walk without any help would go one way, their parents another. They loaded them all up unto trucks and took them away to Oświęcim, because Auschwitz-Birkenau was made up of two camps. Its known that they didnt keep the children for later, but they would be taken away to be dealt with, the elders went to the camp.

It was 42 and they were exterminating the Jews. There were two Jews, they were called “mrówki”, ants, but to this day I have no idea why. A Jewish woman was just under 90 and she paid with her life. They didnt have the strength to go, she turned up, no-one around, they shot them here. They got shot up like my bench, there was a grass patch where these steps are, trees, a garden, that house wasnt there, three apple trees were cut down where the house is now. It was not a pleasant sight. They just shot them and thats that. Someone else came to clean up, he came round with a truck, there must have been two of them, not one of them is alive today. One was called Plewa, the other I cant remember. The truck was called the muck-wagon, farmers would use it to transport fertilizer for the potatoes or anything else that needed planting. They put the bodies on top of it, one by the head, the other by the legs, and they just just hurled them on.

When you go to Sącz, on the left-hand side theres a Jewish cemetery a little up the hill.

This is the third in a series of photographs and interviews by Andrzej Kramarz from his exhibition, "A Piece of Land", at Camelot Gallery in Krakow (Poland) from November 15th to December 28th, 2009. HI Art Magazine will be featuring more excerpts from this exhibition in future issues.


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